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Anomaly-NOW! 10/21/2025 – Weekly News/Media Round-Up

Anomaly-NOW! 10/21/2025 – Weekly News/Media Round-Up

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TOPICS

  • In memory of Jeff Meldrum and Jane Goodall
  • National Archives’ Roswell Crash Footage vs Newly Released Jesse Marcel Audio
  • WSJ Podcast on their UFO investigation vs Senator Gillibrand’s Response
  • Release Date for Age of Disclosure’s “Threat Agenda” / “Next 911” etc
  • Drones & MotherShips 
  • Paul H. Smith Remote Viewed the Nimitz UFO Incident in 2011
  • “Disclosure is Dead” says Col Karl Nell at Sheehan’s Global Disclosure Day event
  • Dream Switching – 90s Sitcom Northern Exposure

 

 

Drones or UFOs/UAP?

 

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CryptoZoology

 

Paranormal (?), Parapsychology, Spiritualism

 

Consciousness

 

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Cold War Secrets and New Jersey Drones: UFO Disclosure Under Fire

**Government disinformation campaigns about UFOs may have been running for decades** – and a sitting Senator just confirmed it’s credible.

This week on Anomaly Now, host Smiles Lewis dives deep into explosive UFO disclosure developments, including Senator Kirsten Gillibrand’s stunning confirmation that Pentagon disinformation operations like the alleged “Yankee Blue” program are believable. The episode explores how the Air Force may have deliberately promoted UFO crash stories to hide secret weapons testing at Area 51.

Lewis also breaks down the mysterious New Jersey drone incidents, revealing claims from a private contractor that their experimental flying vehicle caused some of the panic. But are civilian drones really behind all the military base incursions dating back to 2019?

Plus, discover rare archival footage potentially connected to Roswell, including a newly surfaced 1979 interview with original witness Jesse Marcel Sr. The host examines “drone motherships” appearing over European military installations and discusses upcoming October events featuring Cold War UFO researchers and documentary filmmaker Brad Abraham.

From government cover-ups to modern drone mysteries, this episode connects historical UFO cases with today’s most pressing questions about disclosure and disinformation.

**Tune in now to uncover what the government doesn’t want you to know about UFOs and the truth behind recent drone incidents.**

  • Anomaly Now Weekly Show Introduction
  •  Anomaly Archives Website Overview
  • Website Resources and Patreon Support
  • Wall Street Journal Pentagon UFO Podcast
  • Gillibrand Confirms UFO Disinfo Campaign
  • Mysterious Roswell Crater Aerial Photographs
  • Roswell Crash Site Investigation Evidence
  • Age of Disclosure Documentary Release Date
  • Private Contractor Claims New Jersey UFO Responsibility
  • Drone Motherships Over Europe
  • Paul Smith’s Remote Viewing UFO Revelations
  • Remote Viewing Skepticism and Government Programs
  • Strange Dreams in Sicily Alaska

 

  • **Military contractors may be behind recent drone incursions** – The mysterious New Jersey drone incidents and similar military base intrusions since 2019 could be attributed to private contractors testing experimental flying vehicles, not foreign adversaries or unknown phenomena
  • **Air Force allegedly ran disinformation campaigns about Area 51** – Senator Gillibrand has responded to Wall Street Journal reports claiming the Air Force conducted deliberate disinformation operations to cover up activities at the classified facility
  • **Newly discovered National Archives footage may not be Roswell-related** – Despite recent excitement about potential Roswell evidence found in government archives, researcher Kevin Randall disputes the footage’s relevance to the famous 1947 incident

 

Smiles Lewis hosts Anomaly Now from Austin, Texas, representing the Scientific Anomaly Institute’s weekly media roundup. He announces upcoming October 2025 events including a patron lecture by researchers Erica Lukes and Jack Brewer on Cold War UFOs, and a special presentation by documentary filmmaker Brad Abraham about cinema and unexplained phenomena. Abraham is known for creating documentaries like “Love and Saucers” about alien abduction experiences and “Conspiracy Crews” covering cryptozoology and conspiracy topics. Lewis promotes their website anomalyarchives.org, which houses thousands of books, periodicals, and media files, while encouraging support through their Patreon and local nonprofit radio partnerships. The host promotes their website anomalyarchives.org and Patreon page to help fund getting back into a physical facility. They recommend Micah Hanks’ latest SasquatchTracks.com episode honoring the late Jeff Meldrum and Jane Goodall, praising Goodall’s support for cryptozoology research. The host also discusses the Wall Street Journal’s ongoing UFO series and related podcast about Pentagon disinformation, particularly the “Yankee Blue” operation where the Air Force allegedly promoted UFO crash stories to cover secret weapons programs at Area 51, though they note this perspective isn’t particularly new. A podcast host discusses recent developments in UFO disclosure, focusing on Senator Kirsten Gillibrand’s response to a Wall Street Journal report about decades-long Air Force disinformation campaigns. The host explains how researcher Matt Laszlo interviewed Gillibrand about allegations that the military conducted psychological operations to cover up Area 51 activities. Gillibrand confirmed she discussed this with former ARROW head Sean Kirkpatrick and believes the disinformation campaign claims are credible. The host also mentions that John Greenwald’s FOIA requests found no evidence of the supposed “Yankee Blue” program, and notes the National Archives recently released UFO-related videos, including footage of Roswell materials being handled. The speaker discusses newly discovered archival footage from the National Archives potentially related to the Roswell incident, showing aerial photographs of a crater that some speculate could be UFO crash debris. However, Roswell researcher Kevin Randall has determined these images don’t match the actual crash sites he’s investigated. The speaker highlights a significant find from David Marler’s UFO archives – a rare 1979-1980 interview between Lee Spiegel and Jesse Marcel Sr., one of the original Roswell witnesses, which provides valuable early testimony about the incident and whether there was actually a crater at the crash site. The speaker discusses ongoing UFO disclosure developments, expressing curiosity about new government and military personnel going public while questioning the funding and agenda behind these revelations. They transition to examining the recent New Jersey drone incidents, noting similar military base incursions dating back to 2019. The speaker references a New York Post report claiming a private contractor revealed their experimental personal flying vehicle was responsible for some sightings during testing in November 2024. This car-sized quadcopter was allegedly demonstrated at an Army summit, with company employees taking credit for contributing to the drone panic, though the speaker suggests this may only explain some incidents rather than all military base incursions. A military veteran drone expert described their unsettling first impression of an unidentified flying object at Fort Rucker on August 12th, noting it created an “uncanny valley feeling” as it quietly moved through the sky and nearly disappeared when turning during a 30-minute demonstration. Journalist Mark Merrick von Rennenkampf recently released a video discussing “drone motherships” appearing over Europe, connecting them to similar incidents at American military bases from 2019-2021, where larger drones with extraordinary hovering capabilities appeared to launch and retrieve smaller drones. The New Paradigm Institute’s Danny Sheehan held a four-hour Global Disclosure Day event featuring Colonel Carl Nell, with Richard Dolan commenting that such disclosure cycles have occurred before, though intervals between them may be shortening. The host discusses Paul Smith, a militarily-trained remote viewer and longtime acquaintance from Austin, Texas, who recently made revelations on the Third Eye Drops podcast with Michael Phillip. Smith apparently disclosed new information about being tasked by Hal Puthoff through Robert Bigelow’s BAASS program, which was connected to the Pentagon’s AATIP UFO program. The host expresses curiosity about Lou Elizondo’s potential involvement in remote viewing and acknowledges both believing in psychic abilities while maintaining skepticism about government applications of remote viewing, noting the importance of proper protocols where viewers remain blind to their targets. The speaker discusses criticisms of remote viewing research, noting potential issues with telepathic transfer between taskers and viewers, or unconscious leading similar to hypnosis. They then share a personal anecdote about experiencing dream switching with their best friend in high school, where they literally had each other’s dreams. This led them to believe there’s more to reality than meets the eye. The speaker connects this to a Northern Exposure episode called “Mr. Sandman” where townspeople share dreams due to an intense Aurora Borealis, validating their interest in paranormal dream phenomena.

 

TRANSCRIPT

Hello and welcome to another edition of Anomaly Now. Straight out of Austin, Texas, I am your host, Smiles Lewis. This is the weekly, very rarely these days, live weekly Anomaly News and Media Roundup for the non -profit 501c3 Scientific Anomaly Institute, aka the Anomaly Archives. Thank you for joining me, whether you are watching this or listening to it, however you are receiving this information. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. All right. Yeah. So we’re going to be dropping this episode on a Tuesday instead of a Wednesday. Today is October 21st, 2025.

 

And of course, tomorrow we are having a special presentation, our monthly online lecture series, the Anomaly Academy lecture series for our patrons, folks who are signed up at a certain tier or higher for our patreon .com slash anomaly archives. service that we are going to be hosting. This is going up tomorrow. That is going to be Wednesday, October 22nd, 2025. Expanding Frontiers researchers, Erica Lukes and Jack Brewer are going to be talking about the Cold War and UFOs. Very much looking forward to that. Hope you’ll go over to our patreon .com slash anomaly archives page and sign up for that. And then you can also coming up. less than a week later, we are going to have a special presentation from good friend, Brad Abraham’s close encounters of the humankind. We’re going to explore the cinema of the unseen. And that is coming up October 28th, 2025. That is in just a, well, a week, a week from now. And that’s going to be very exciting. He of course is the. director, creator, mastermind behind a number of fantastic documentaries on strange subjects like Love and Saucers, that crazy wild story about a New York artist who has memories and began painting them about his early age abduction, close encounter experiences, very sexually charged adult material, as well as conspiracy crews. Other documentaries about Sasquatch, Bigfoot, skunk ape, cryptozoology subjects, as well as the subjects of conspiracy, like Do You See What I See about a legendary, infamous graphic artist whose art you undoubtedly saw if you ever dipped your toe into the conspiracy scene over the last 20 years or so. And many other wonderful things like Telos or Bust and Keep Folklore Alive, which is the subtitle, I think, for the Telos or Bust. series. Anyway, I’m really looking forward to hearing from Brad Abrahams and seeing what he has to say and then having a nice discussion with him. And hopefully if you’re there with us, you can ask some questions of Brad. All right. So jumping right in, of course, you can go to our website. That is anomalyarchives .org. That is where we have all kinds of information on the,

 

oh, let’s put that up there. Yes, anomalyarchives .org is where we have thousands of pages on our 7 ,000 plus books and periodicals and digital files and media files. Of course, if you’re watching this on our YouTube channel, you can go and look at all the past in -person and online events that we’ve held. We’re making a lot more stuff public all the time. And if you go to anomalyarchives, you can click through to our Patreon page. You can find out more about our participation in local. nonprofit community organizations like COOP, KOOP, Radio 91 .7 FM. They have a wonderful community organization group where they support local nonprofits by allowing them access to the airwaves. And you can also find our back issues of our newsletter. I just put out a new newsletter and update yesterday, as well as links to our Flipboard, which of course has thousands and thousands of news items. that we’ve aggregated over the last many several years. And so, of course, that page is this page right here. And yeah, so there’s, like I say, a ton of news. And I’m going to try to keep this episode short because I have a lot of work to do. But and it’s all Anomaly Archives related. Yes, yes, yes. All right. But oh, yes, you can also go to our website where we have the show notes for each. Each weekly episode of Anomaly Now, which has links to the past archives, audio -only archives, the video archives, and each episode has its own page with links to articles that were discussed as well as articles we didn’t get to because there’s always just too much news to get to. But you can find all that over at the anomalyarchives .org webpage. And of course, like I say, if you go to… our patreon .com slash anomaly archives page that and sign up for free or give us a dollar, $2, $5, $10 a month. It would really help us on our journey to getting back into a physical facility and we’re just raring to go. So hopefully you can help with that. Okay. So, you know, last couple of shows we’ve talked about. The sad passing of Jane Goodall and other legends in the cryptozoology scene. And I wanted you to be aware of, and I highly recommend, as always, everything done by Micah Hanks. You can go to MicahHanks .com. That’s M -I -C -A -H -H -A -N -K -S .com. But he also has SasquatchTracks .com for his other podcast, his cryptozoology -oriented podcast. And their latest episode after a long break. came out on October 7th. It’s titled Remembering Jeff Meldrum and Jane Goodall. This is their 67th episode, and it is a great tribute to these legends, these pioneers in the fields of their own areas of interest. And here you can see a picture of Jeff Meldrum with Jane Goodall. She provided a blurb to one of his most famous books. And as I explained in the past, episodes of the show we’ve she she was really supportive of the cryptozoology field and the the study of reports of undiscovered relict hominoids or bigfoot has commonly known but yes you can go to sasquatchtrex .com and look for this most recent episode it’s i forget how long it’s about an hour and a half but anyway check that out highly recommend that and You know, some of you may recall our reporting on the Wall Street Journal’s takedown of the UFO community, their two -part article that supposedly may have more parts coming. This came out, oh gosh, when was it? Yes, back in June. Part one was called The Pentagon Disinformation That Fueled America’s UFO Mythology, subtitled U .S. military fabricated evidence of alien technology and allowed rumors to fester to cover up real secret weapons programs. Duh. Well, there is a new episode of their Wall Street Journal podcast called the Pentagon’s UFO Cover -Up, and it is available for free. And you can go and check that out and listen to the audio there. It’s about, I think, 18 minutes. There is nothing that real new or… startling about it, but if you’re following along, it’s worth taking a listen, I suppose. There is also a full transcript that you can read along with if that’s your preferred method of ingesting information. But they interview one of the main researchers, writers for that article, that series of articles, Joel Sheckman. I, like I say, I don’t think there’s really anything new here, but just there’s a little bit more. It just rounds out their storytelling of this perspective. And of course, one of the main perspectives in it is this, what was called Yankee Blue, in which if you go to the Vietnamese archives webpage, we have a page called Yankee Blue UFO, as well as another page called Arts, parts, alleged Roswell or other crashed UFO crash retrieval material. And these were the two things that are covered in this Wall Street Journal series of articles, as well as in this podcast, this idea that the Air Force seeded the idea of crashed recovery programs and recovered bodies and craft at local… rachel nevada outside area 51 restaurant bar or whatever back you know decades ago as a way to disinform the public about their secret weapons programs going on at area 51 this is an old idea it’s nothing new this idea that oh yeah maybe maybe the government military played up the wacky ufo stories as a way of for cover of their their programs and since area 51 was supposed to be secret but there’s no way you can keep a secret in the world we live in even pre -internet or as just as the internet was about to come online you know it’s kind of like raise the profile but control the narrative that is the long -running hypothesis by many ufo researchers about what was going on there and then this idea of a hazing program or whether official or just employees of the military and the Air Force on their own doing this whole Yankee Blue thing. Now, recall also that John Greenwald of the Black Vault did FOIA requests for anything related to the supposed Yankee Blue information. They returned nothing, said there was nothing, no memos, nothing to support this claim. And so we’ve only had the Wall Street Journals and presumably Sean Kirkpatrick, the former head of Arrow, who released Their report, and of course a new report, is coming out later this month, supposedly, or it should, about the government aero office’s attempts to investigate UAP UFOs.

 

government aero office’s attempts to investigate UAP UFOs. Where am I going? Why am I bringing all this up again? Well, again, because of this Wall Street Journal podcast, you can go check that out, as I mentioned. And yes, that’s over at wallstreetjournal .com slash podcast slash the dash journal. the Pentagon’s UFO cover -up. But the other thing, so this isn’t exactly new, but Matt Laszlo of Ask a Poll UAP, he’s our guy on the ground, your guy on the ground, the people’s man there at the Capitol trying to get answers from these legislators. the senators, et cetera, on the subject of UFOs, UAP, among other subjects. But that’s, he has several, he has ones on drugs and politics and whatever. But back, I guess this was in June. No, this is, okay, this is only a few days ago in October. I think he may have released this earlier, a version of this, but yes, he was interviewing Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. about that Wall Street Journal article. And he had brought copies to give to senators saying, have you read this? What is your response to this? And the headline is, I don’t know which is true. Gillibrand on the Wall Street Journal report of decades -long Air Force UFO PSYOP. And yeah, I wanted to play a little clip of this. And again, thanks to Matt Laszlo at askapoleuaps .com. And, of course, the links will be in the show notes. And fair warning, Senator Gillibrand drops the F -bomb. So here we go.

 

All right. So, yeah. And sorry for the audio there. It was, quote, unquote, enhanced. And the enhancement often introduces its own artifacts and makes their voices sound weird. Sometimes it makes me sound like I have a lisp. But anyway, yeah, it’s nice. I’m so glad that Matt Laszlo is there doing this. But there it is. She confirms that she had been talked to about this and that it was Kirkpatrick when he was the head of Arrow. And she tends to agree. She’s like, this seems to be true, that there was this disinfo campaign to cover up what was going on at Area 51. But then there are these separate issues. Is that different than the hazing issue and the NDA issue and the threatening of whistleblowers?

 

with ufo witnesses and that sort of thing complicated for sure all right well briefly i skipped over something else i wanted to mention which is in a previous episode or two i mentioned that the national archives as part of its requirement as part of the arrow etc ufo uap initiatives that the government has has started over the last few years

 

skipped over something else i wanted to mention which is in a previous episode or two i mentioned that the national archives as part of its requirement as part of the arrow etc ufo uap initiatives that the government has has started over the last few years All these agencies are required to collect all their UFO information and make it public. And not too long ago, kind of quietly, the National Archives put out their, just quietly put out a series of videos. This is all online. You can go find it. I’ll try to put the links in the show notes. But one of the videos that they put out, and it’s a video of like, footage of somebody handling UFO photos and videotaping their handling of the photos. And this is all, most of the stuff in this particular video is stuff related to Roswell, allegedly. Now it’s, none of the, there’s no citations for this stuff per se. And so it’s really unclear, like, and I’ve edited this clip just to show you this specific thing, but I’m going to link to something else. But yeah, here’s a little, about a minute and 13 seconds of something. that i think is worth checking out and i’ve been meaning to to talk about on the show here so yeah so here yeah national archives archives .org or .gov excuse me three four one point roswell so yeah it’s good i skipped to this part where there’s this crater that somehow is allegedly associated with roswell don’t know the source of this

 

yeah national archives archives .org or .gov excuse me three four one point roswell so yeah it’s good i skipped to this part where there’s this crater that somehow is allegedly associated with roswell don’t know the source of this But several people have pointed this out and tried to visualize, oh, is that crash craft debris? Is there a body visible? Of course, people will see all kinds of things. This apparently is an aerial photograph of a crash site somewhere. Again, who knows where this is, but it’s interesting. But notice that in these photographs, we’re looking at a crater, something digging into the earth. And of course, most of the mythology of Roswell involves reports of a crater and a craft embedded. Now, of course, there’s this whole idea of there being multiple crash sites, not just the one. There’s the Corona and the Roswell. And there’s been suggestions that there were two craft that hit each other and that the wreckage of the craft was at the other site. And so maybe that’s the other site. But again, none of this is definitive. Oh, that reminds me. I forgot to pull up the page that I was going to use to describe this other thing. Yeah, Kevin Randall over at his blog was reporting on when this, presumably he reported on this when it was released. Somebody brought it to his attention. And he talked about how the footage differed from the debris.

 

talked about how the footage differed from the debris. and the crash site that he had investigated and that he knew to be real.

 

Here’s Bill Brazel and Don Schmidt on the debris field, photo by Kevin Randall. And another one, Don Schmidt and Kevin Randall on the impact site, 2023. Site was identified by several eyewitnesses.

 

several eyewitnesses.

 

Yes, here’s another article. True photos of the Roswell crash site taken much later than 1947. Anyway, all of this is to say, again, that he and others are saying that that crash site that we showed the video for does not appear to be anything related to that. Which, again, earlier in that same video is just video footage of classic Roswell UFO books. So maybe those photos appeared somewhere. You could see they seemed like separate photos, not as part of a book that were being handled by the videographer. Now, the reason I bring all this up is because of the interview that Ryan Sprague did on his Somewhere in the Skies show recently with David Marler of National UFO Historical Records Center there in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico. There’s some really great… stuff coming out of their archives. Thank goodness they have preserved this material. And we mentioned that there was this long -lost interview with Lee Spiegel interviewing the original Jesse Marcel Sr. of the Roswell crash story. And here is that, and the clips from that that go to the subject of the crash site.

 

that there was any gouge at the crash site. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Now, again, there may be more to this, but it’s good to go back to earliest sources. And that interview between Lee Spiegel and Jesse Marcel Sr. circa 1979, 1980 would be one of the earliest modern investigations of that. All right, moving right along. In case you hadn’t heard, the age of disclosure. The documentary revealing government cover -up of non -human intelligence sets release in theaters and on Amazon Plus new trailer. This being reported by Variety. That’s over at Variety .com October 16th. The Age of Disclosure. Dan Farah’s buzzy documentary that aims to establish that we’re not alone in the universe is finally making its way to the masses. The film will have an Oscar qualifying run in select theaters in New York and Los Angeles beginning on November 21st along with a concurrent release on Amazon Prime Video. Additionally, a new trailer for the film was released on Thursday. Not a lot to go on, but hey, yay, there’s finally a release date for this. Still haven’t seen it. Very curious to see what it really shows. Is there really anything important or new here other than the fact that there appear to be more quote -unquote respected government intel military types going public on the record about… what they either have witnessed or what they believe about the subject of UFOs and the government and potential cover -ups. And again, I will say, you know, there is concern about who funded this and what is the real agenda behind this. And it’s all kind of odd given where we find ourselves now.

 

But before I go to where we find ourselves, I’ll just continue on with some other. Just briefly touching on the area of drones, because now in our modern era, in this recent post -2017 era, but really just since in the last five, six years, early 2019, 2020 on, the issue of drones and the military and their danger to us has become increasing. And this recent New Jersey drone scare flap. That wasn’t just New Jersey and that wasn’t just all misidentifications because there were drones of import and concern cited multiple times over military bases. Again, not just in the 2024, 2025, but as far back as 2019, 2020, there have been these multiple flaps. Again, mostly over military bases. Those are the ones that seem the most concerning. But of course, there is somebody now coming out, and this is not just the New York Post, not the most reputable news outlet, but others are reporting on this. This headline from Shane Galvin at NewYorkPost .com, NYPost .com, New Jersey drone and UFO scare solved. Private contractor unveils strange aircraft, takes credit for sky mystery. And, you know, the… The craft here that they’re talking about is one that I think was discussed by multiple people as a possible source of some of the sightings of quote unquote car sized drones. Well, this isn’t a drone per se. This is a personal flying vehicle. You’ve probably seen it. Everybody makes the joke about, I was promised a future with flying cars like the Jetsons. Well, this is the closest we’ve come to. There’s one or two others, but the closest we’ve come to a modern personal flying vehicle, a VTOL, vertical takeoff and landing vehicle, it’s basically just a car with four. It’s a car -sized quadcopter. But again, the question becomes, how really long can this stay in the air? This article from the New York Post says a private company at a high -powered Army conference demonstrated a unique aircraft at the event and allegedly took responsibility for setting off last year’s drone and UFO pandemonium in New Jersey, a source told the Post. At the Army’s UAS and launched effects summit at Fort Rucker in August, a private contractor conducted a live demonstration of a manned aerial craft that wowed the crowd with its unconventional appearance and unorthodox flight movements. An attendee told the Post, quote, you remember that big UFO scare in New Jersey last year? Well, that was us. An employee of the unnamed contractor claimed to a small group after the demonstration, according to the source who was invited to the summit. The company was in the air over the Garden State in November 2024 to, quote, test out their capabilities, unquote. The contractor’s employee claimed to. claim to the source adding they were not required to disclose their activity to the public because of a private government contract this actually kind of fits with some of what we heard from the officials but it also if if true if there was if if a significant or at least the seed events for the non -military incursion because i don’t think it’s where where the military people were seeing drones that was no test of this that those were considered incursions. Continuing from the article and video provided to the Post, the roughly 20 -foot -across four -winged flyer zooms through the skies just above the treetop tree line, drawing the attention of dozens of soldiers on the ground. I thought it was the military testing out on the other side of the base, the source, a military veteran drone expert, said of their first impression of the flying object on August 12th at Fort Rucker. Quote, it feels like it’s a UFO because it defies what you’re expecting to see, they said, adding there was an, quote, uncanny valley feeling, unquote, when watching it quietly motor through the sky. When it turned, you almost completely lose sight of it, the source said of the roughly 30 -minute demonstration in the controlled airspace of Fort Rucker. I have my doubts. Anyway, I just wanted to bring that to your attention so you know that’s out there. More interesting, perhaps, is this recent… 13 minute video news brief by, is it Ken Klippenstein? I hope that I’ve got the right. Oh no, I’m sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry. Not that guy. This is from Mark Merrick, Mark Merrick von Rennenkamp, who is a journalist that’s been working for UAP UFO related news outlets, including the soul foundation, which is not a news outlet per se. But in this recent video from five days ago, drone motherships, quote unquote, now over Europe and virtual access to the upcoming Saul Foundation symposium. Now, I don’t have any clips from this, but I would encourage you to check this out because he does a good job of giving a synopsis of the issue of these claims of motherships associated with some of the recent European. drone incursions around, I believe, mostly civilian airports. But he brings this in the context of what I was alluding to earlier, these 2019 and 2020 and 2021 Midwest American military and rural drone collapse and military drone incursion, military base incursions. where motherships were seen and the idea of these motherships is again that a larger drone that hovers for way longer than should be possible with known drone technology which makes me think maybe it’s an airship drone like it’s mainly keeping aloft not through propellers but through lighter than air capabilities or maybe something more exotic who knows and that somehow it’s able to launch and retrieve smaller drones, like the kinds you think of as maintained by civilians and some military, because these were described over and over again. And he goes into some great detail about that, which I think is a service to the UFO UAP community. But that’s over at YouTube, the Saul Foundation channel. Okay, what’s next?

 

Right. Two other things I wanted to bring to your attention. So recently,

 

the New Paradigm Institute, this is the organization of Danny Sheehan, held their Global Disclosure Day 2025, a historic turning point for truth, transparency, and citizen action. It was a, I think it was like over four hours, maybe longer streaming event. this past Sunday, October 19th. And I did not get the chance to watch it.

 

did not get the chance to watch it. It was briefly made private, but they have since put it as unlisted. We’ve got the link and you should be able to find it even without going to our show notes, but we will put it in the show notes. But other shows that I keep an eye on brought to my attention this interesting clip from Colonel Carl Nell.

 

Kind of an interesting perspective to express at Danny Sheehan’s Global Disclosure Day event, don’t you think? And interestingly enough, the same podcaster who brought this to my attention showed a clip that I’m not going to bother with, but Richard Dolan gave his feedback and was like, well, I hear what you’re saying, and I think there’s some truth to it, but this is not our first rodeo, folks. This has been a cycle, like described by Carl Nell, that’s gone on for some time. And this is just the latest one. And I think the most salient thing perhaps that Richard Dolan said in the clip I saw was that perhaps the interval between these cycles will be lessened and that it seems in some ways easier to… And the podcaster was saying it’s easier now. There’s a lot more wealth of content about all these subjects, which I don’t know that that’s necessarily a good thing, but… Anyway, very interesting. Apparently hours and hours of dialogue amongst various UFO, UAP researchers, activists, etc. So you may want to go check that out and I’ll probably get around to watching more of it as I have time. Time. What else we got? Oh, lastly, another couple of things. So let’s see. Right.

 

Again, another show brought to my attention, this clip from a recent appearance of Paul H. Smith on the show Third Eye Drops with Michael Phillip. Now, you know, Paul Smith is an old friend of mine, or at least I’ve known him since approximately, well, 2000 to 2002, sometime in there I think I met him. I think he’s expressed to me that he thinks we met before then. But suffice to say, Paul Smith used to live here in Austin, Texas, while he was going to University of Texas. And we had the opportunity to interact several times. The different nonprofits that I’ve been involved with were interacting with him because of his being a militarily trained remote viewer. And I interviewed him for the Austin Paratimes newspaper that I was editing back in 2002, 2003. And I’ve interviewed him for my PSYOP radio show. And he, of course, presented to our 2020 stream -a -thon, our fundraiser that we did through YouTube. And anyway,

 

he’s moved away, but I always love to hear what he’s got going on and talk to him. But yeah, check out this three -minute clip that I put together from this most recent show. with Michael Phillip called Third Eye Drops. Classified UFOs, Remote Viewing, and the Consciousness Mystery, which also features Richard Dolan again.

 

So, yeah, of course, Paul also gave a lecture here in Austin at our Anomaly Archives location. on the subject of remote viewing and UFOs. But of course, he continued to hold this kind of information very close to his chest. That was not part of that presentation. So this is a new revelation. I don’t know that he’s ever spoken about this publicly. Interestingly enough, Kelly Chase and Jay King’s Cosmosis, formerly UFO Rabbit Hole podcast, they have just released a video. of Paul Smith’s lecture at the recent IRVA, International Remote Viewing Association, IRVA, conference that they attended. Of course, they’re out in the field producing new video vignettes for their ongoing Cosmosis -related content creation. And I don’t recall, I did watch,

 

don’t recall, I did watch, I don’t recall if he mentions this again. This may be an exclusive, it probably is, for this Third Eye Drops with Michael Phillip. and there’s some other interesting stuff in that. I haven’t finished watching it yet, so there’s still probably more, maybe some more revelations, but that is very interesting that he seemed, the inference is that he was tasked by Hal Puthoff via the Robert Bigelow B -A -A -S -S, the BAS contracted program that we think of as the OSAP, A -T -I -P. Pentagon UFO program? Well, and it makes it, it draws into the question like what I’ve always wondered about Lou Elizondo’s involvement in remote viewing. When did he become part of any kind of remote viewing process? Maybe it was this team. Maybe, I don’t know. There’s still so much we don’t know about the history of the OSAP, AATIP period of time, the program, of course, Some folks have done lots of research on the whole Skinwalker Ranch aspect of this. Then there’s all the dirts and documentation that’s been released or leaked. Honestly, as much as I am a fan of and interested in remote viewing, I do have my concerns and skepticism about it, even though I do believe that all humans are psychic to a greater or lesser degree and that there is a truth. a true kernel of realness to remote viewing. I do think there’s also probably something else going on there with the government’s use of it, but it’s just, it’s just as Paul Smith would be the first to say, you know, you need to, if you’re going to do good remote viewing, it needs to be the, the remote viewer needs to be blind to the target. They can’t know. the nature or information about the target. And preferably it’s a randomized selection of the target so that the person working with them, the tasker, doesn’t even know the target. But if the tasker knows the pool of targets, they know what it could be. And then if they start sensing that the remote viewer may have tapped into the correct target, a correct target or something that they know is one of the target pool of targets. Then you’re just you’re going off into possibly just simple telepathic transfer, if you even believe in that sort of stuff. And then if you don’t, then you can think of it just being like the idea of hypnosis and the therapist leading the witness subtly, unconsciously. All these things are valid criticisms of. the vast majority of, of, of what people think of as remote viewing research and remote viewing sessions. But now I’m just sounding like a skeptic, but Hey, that’s, that’s part of my, myself, my being. All right. One last thing here. So I, as people who’ve been watching the show know, I’ve been binge watching all the old Northern exposure, 1990s episode TV episodes. And as always, there’s almost in every episode, some kind of reference to folklore,

 

paranormal phenomena, synchronicities, occasionally rare things like UFOs. But I remember so many decades ago when I think it was my good friend, Robert Larson of the Excluded Middle, one of the three main guys behind that publication, Greg Bishop, Robert Larson, Peter Stenschel.

 

brought to my attention that there was an episode that involved dream switching. And in fact, you know, that’s something that I have experience with from high school. And I’ve probably told this story multiple times on the show, but basically when I was in high school, I had my best friend’s dream and he had my dream. And. Ever since, that’s just one of the many experiences in my life that’s made me go, you know, there’s something more to the nature of reality. And dreams are very psychic and paranormal. And it’s something that I’ve always felt have relevance to the strange phenomena. Well, I don’t know if I ever actually got to see this episode. I’ve been watching and there’s been episodes that I thought might have been the one that my friend Robert had told me about. But no, last night I came across. Season five, episode 12, Mr. Sandman, which first aired January 10th, 1994. And the synopsis is pretty minimal. The citizens of Sicily start having strange dreams. They soon realize they’re sharing each other’s dreams. And it’s basically, it’s attributed to an intense Aurora Borealis happening above the town there in Alaska, Sicily, Alaska. And basically different people in the town start having each other’s dreams. They experience dream switching. Maybe not as one -to -one as I described from my experience as a teenager with my best friend, one of my best friends. But anyway, as always, I really enjoyed the episode. And, you know, maybe you might enjoy that kind of thing. Well, that’s going to be it for today, October 21st, 2021. I hope you will join us tomorrow night for the latest Anomaly Academy presentation by our friends, Erica Lukes and Jack Brewer on the Cold War and UFOs. That’s Wednesday, October 23rd, excuse me, 22nd. That’s tomorrow, October 22nd. And you should join. us via patreon .com and if you are of a certain tier or higher you’ll have access to that and then like I mentioned coming up in less than a week after that a special surprise presentation by our good friend Brad Abrahams where he’ll explore the cinema of the unseen in a presentation we’re calling Close Encounters of the Humankind and very much looking forward to that presentation and discussion afterwards. He of course is the creator of so many wonderful paranormal parapolitical oriented documentaries like love and saucers. Do you see what I see? Conspiracy crews, et cetera, et cetera. And that’s going to be it folks. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care, be safe, and we’ll see you next time.