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- Source: Coast to Coast AM
D. Dean Johnson at X/Twitter reminds folks:
“…James Lacatski’s warning that some sincere people have been misled by bogus UFO documents in government classified systems. “I have seen, in multiple cases, what I can only call forged documents…talking about [UFO] programs that are not legitimate documents.””
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See video below starting at the 45:56 mark…
- Who is Dr. James T Lacatski, AAWSAP Program Manager? AtmosphericLights.com
- “Crashed craft” interested authority by Clas Svahn and Roger Glassel, UFO.se
“The documents showing DHS’s interest in possible extraterrestrial craft were published by the Pentagon’s UFO office AARO.
“The documents were declassified and turned over to AARO,” AARO Acting Director Tim Phillips told Politico.
– It has been said that this is where the bodies were hidden, but that was not true. And the proposed program was never approved by DHS management and never came to hold any material or information.
The program was called “KONA BLUE” and was proposed in the 2010s. The goal was to recreate the technology that could be found on craft from other worlds. But it should not have gone that far, according to the documents published on AARO’s website.
“It is important to note that no alien craft or bodies were ever collected – this material was only assumed to exist by Kona Blue’s proponents and its prospective contract executors,” the documents state.
Kona Blue was in reality an attempt by James T. Lacatski, who was the AAWSAP/AATIP program manager, to move the program to another agency after 2010. This was after the US Defense Intelligence Agency DIA, which managed the program, and the Pentagon’s Office of Intelligence and Security (OUSD I&S) in the latter half of 2010 concluded that the information the program delivered was of little importance to DIA. The recommendation was to move the program to another agency or office within the Pentagon that, in terms of internal politics, was better suited to manage the program.
Lacatski then tried to get AAWSAP established as a Special Access Program for classified information. This went so far that the new initiative by Lacatski was given the fictitious application name Kona Blue, and reached Prospective Special Access Program (PSAP) status. However, this initiative failed after a review of the program’s goals and purpose. The previous deliveries from AAWSAP also played a role in the decision.
The saga of AAWSAP/AATIP as a formally sanctioned program thus ended in 2012, but some involved, such as Luis Elizondo, continued an informal effort to investigate UFO phenomena reported by military personnel, an informal sideline that also went by the name AATIP.
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- SOL Conference Day 1 – Puthoff Backs Crash Retrievals, Grusch and Lacatski (Video by UfoJoe) November 2023
- Pentagon insider who compiled 200,000 UFO reports says government ‘has alien spacecraft’ – The former head of a US government UFO research program has made the bombshell claim that there is a captured alien spacecraft being held somewhere in America, with scientists attempting to unravel its secrets by Michael Moran, DailyStar.com, October 2023

- Former Head of U.S. Government UFO Program Confirms Government Possesses Advanced Craft of Unknown by Christopher Sharp – 17 October 2023
- Former intelligence official breaks silence on gov’t UFO investigations by George Knapp, Feb 2023, 8NewsNow.com
“From 2008 until 2021, nearly everything related to UFO activity came across Jay Stratton’s desk. He was the individual who decided to abandon the acronym UFO in favor of UAP or unidentified aerial phenomena.
Stratton worked at the highest levels of Naval Intelligence, which loaned him to the Defense Intelligence Agency, where he excelled at reverse engineering. He and his colleague Dr. James Lacatski, a rocket scientist, saw reports of the unknown craft. Stratton assumed that a central location was analyzing those reports.
“As we tried to find that office, we found nothing,” said Stratton.

ABOVE: Jay Stratton is one of the United States government’s highest-ranking and most experienced UFO hunters. (KLAS)
They set out to create an office that would fit that bill. Dr. Lacatski was reading about a UFO hotspot named “Skinwalker Ranch.” After a visit to the property, Dr. Lacatski pitched the creation of a formal investigation into the location. Reid agreed to fund it, and Bigelow landed the contract. Stratton consulted with the AAWSAP program and later its successor, AATIP, or the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.”
- Curt Collins (4/5/2022): UFO Updates facebook group
- “Skinwalkers” Transcript: Oct. 14th – C2C – Lacatski, Kelleher & Knapp – UFO Study Can’t Just Be On Nuts & Bolts – October 2021 UfoJoe.net
- From Jacques Vallee’s Forbidden Science Journals Volume 5: Pacific Heights:
“Hummingbird. Wednesday 24 December 2008.
A very strange coincidence occurred this afternoon as Bob Bigelow & Colm Kelleher called me about the second project (on AAWSAP ~Joe) we’ve agreed I would do. They caught me at the wheel of the Highlander, as I had just parked it in Berkeley. “I was with Janine who had gone into a used bookstore to sell her brother’s old vinyl records. Helping her carry the heavy boxes, one record on top of a pile caught my eye. It was Mike Oldfield’s ‘Tubular Bells,’ with the now-famous ‘pretzel’ symbol on the cover, resembling the object that had appeared to Dr. Lacatski on his first visit to [#skinwalkerranch]. “‘We’re not selling this one,’ I told Janine, and I carried it back to the truck for safekeeping. “That’s the exact moment when Bob and Colm called me on my cellphone. Hal comments on this, an obvious intersign: ‘Yes, sometimes it all looks like it is all scripted!’ Now Roger Brenner tells me that ‘Tubular Bells’ was used as the music for ‘The Exorcist.’”
- Source: The Military-UFO Complext by Mick West, Reason magazine – 2022
- How a D.I.A. Director’s “First Vision” on SWR kicked-off AAWSAP, AATIP, Lue Elizondo and even Brandon Fugal’s TV show – James Lakatski’s “Kick-off” First Vision at Skinalker Ranch in 2007: Edited excerpt from Skinwalkers at The Pentagon, Reddit
“James T. Lacatski was the Defense Intelligence Agency program manager, contracting officer representative (COR), security coordinator, and counterintelligence coordinator for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), a $22 Million UFO research effort. Jim has a BS, MS, and D.Eng in Nuclear Engineering with expertise in fusion plasmas and directed energy weapons. In 2007, Jim met Robert Bigelow and Senator Harry Reid leading to the start of AAWSAP in 2008.