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UFO Mysteries, Mystery Hums, and Unresolved Contradictions: A 23-Year Journey

 

# When the Hum Comes for You

Rarely does a podcast episode manage to weave together personal mystery, UFO politics, and outright digital warfare into one cohesive hour, but Anomaly Now pulls it off. Smiles Lewis opens with something genuinely unsettling: his own 30-day encounter with the “mystery hum” phenomenon back in 2016, a strange auditory experience documented worldwide that he later detailed in a 2017 lecture.

From there, the episode expands into something much larger. The Scientific Anomaly Institute (based in Austin, Texas) brings its 23-year history and collection of over 7,000 books to bear on some genuinely troubling stories, including new revelations about Lou Elizondo’s departure from the Pentagon. FOIA emails obtained by John Greenwald of the Black Vault contradict Elizondo’s dramatic resignation narrative entirely, suggesting a carefully managed exit rather than a principled protest.

Could the entire UFO disclosure movement be shaped by counterintelligence interests? Lewis raises this uncomfortable question while also paying tribute to Nick Pope and Ed Dames, two controversial figures who recently passed away. The episode is thorough and thorough in its skepticism, covering everything from Jacques Vallée defending his reputation to alleged troll networks targeting independent researchers.

(The FEMA teleportation story is here too, if you need a breather.)

Tune in to Anomaly Now for the full episode.

 

Timestamps below are approximate before final editing:

  • 00:00:00 – Welcome to Anomaly Now Weekly Roundup
  • 00:02:02 – My Mystery Hum Experience and Low Frequency Tinnitus
  • 00:05:32 – Experiencing Tinnitus and The World Hum
  • 00:08:30 – Glenn’s Scientific Approach to Unexplained Phenomena
  • 00:09:49 – Missing Links and Deleted Blog Posts
  • 00:11:22 – Appearing on Shatner’s Unexplained Show
  • 00:16:14 – Meeting Nick Pope at Roswell Anniversary
  • 00:18:26 – Remembering Ed Dames and Remote Viewing
  • 00:22:07 – Accusations of Espionage and UFO Disclosure Conflicts
  • 00:25:46 – Contradictions in Elizondo’s Pentagon UFO Exit
  • 00:29:46 – Government Disinformation and UFO Disclosure Tactics
  • 00:33:51 – Alleged Harassment Networks and Psychological Exploitation Tactics
  • 00:37:06 – Coordinated Doxing Campaigns and Targeted Harassment
  • 00:39:28 – Stochastic Terrorism and Information Suppression
  • 00:41:53 – Serpent Mound Mystery and UAP Disclosure
  • 00:45:07 – UFO Podcasts and Paranormal News Roundup

 

  • **The “mystery hum” phenomenon remains poorly understood despite recent research advances** – Lewis highlights how this widespread auditory experience lacks clear scientific explanation, distinguishing it from simple tinnitus.
  • **FOIA documents have revealed contradictions in Lou Elizondo’s account of his Pentagon UFO program departure** – John Greenwald’s findings suggest inconsistencies between Elizondo’s public statements and official records.
  • **Prominent UFO researchers like Nick Pope and Ed Dames have recently passed away**, marking a significant generational shift in a field that has evolved over decades of investigation.

 

Smiles Lewis, host of Anomaly Now, welcomes listeners to the weekly news and media roundup for the Scientific Anomaly Institute in Austin, Texas. He discusses the organization’s 23-year history, extensive collection of over 7,000 books covering anomalous topics, and their searchable Flipboard magazine archive. Lewis invites the community to help locate an affordable physical space for the nonprofit and highlights current featured articles on UFO phenomena, including pieces on alien abductions and Michigan’s historic UFO wave. He then shares his personal experience from 2016 when he encountered the “mystery hum” phenomenon for approximately 30 days, referencing his detailed 2017 lecture on this mysterious auditory experience and related phenomena documented worldwide. The speaker shares their personal experience with tinnitus, describing how they developed high-frequency ringing in their ears from exposure to loud rock concerts at a young age. Recently, they’ve noticed a new low-frequency sound emerging, which they believe may be internally generated rather than environmental. They explore how tinnitus remains poorly understood scientifically, with various possible causes ranging from biology to diet. The speaker then mentions receiving a timely email from Glenn McPherson, who runs the World Hum Map and Database Project, about a study suggesting a connection between the auditory system generating 40-hertz frequencies and reported hum experiences. The speaker discusses an frustrating interaction with Glenn MacPherson regarding the World Hum Map and Database Project. The speaker attempted to comment on Glenn’s blog post asking for a link to referenced research, but the post was deleted before the comment could be posted. The speaker then pivots to paying tribute to Nick Pope, a public figure in the UFO community who recently passed away from terminal cancer. The speaker acknowledges Pope’s contributions to the field and notes positive testimonials from colleagues and community members who appreciated his support and advocacy, while acknowledging that some had criticized his previous work with the Ministry of Defense. The speaker reflects on the recent deaths of two prominent UFO figures: Nick Pope, a former Ministry of Defence official turned UFO expert, and Ed Dames, a remote viewing researcher. The speaker shares personal anecdotes about meeting Nick Pope at a 2017 Roswell anniversary event and acknowledges both individuals’ controversial legacies. While praising Nick Pope’s integrity in defending colleagues against misogyny, the speaker hints at unresolved concerns about his personal conduct. Regarding Ed Dames, the speaker notes his infamous association with remote viewing claims and the Heaven’s Gate controversy, directing listeners to remembrances and tributes available on various UFO-focused websites. The speaker discusses a contentious letter from Jacques Vallée responding to accusations made by Jean-Jacques Velasco in a book about Roswell. Vallée particularly objects to being called an American spy, describing the allegation as impossible to refute and harmful to his reputation. The speaker also mentions criticism Vallée has faced regarding his interactions with Peter Thiel and references a detailed article examining Lou Elizondo’s role in the UFO disclosure movement, suggesting potential counterintelligence involvement shaping public narratives. The speakers discuss contradictions in Lou Elizondo’s account of leaving the Pentagon’s UFO program. John Greenwald of the Black Vault obtained emails through FOIA requests after Elizondo’s own emails were mysteriously deleted, revealing a different narrative. Rather than storming out in protest as Elizondo claimed, documents show he informed supervisors of a “fleeing job opportunity,” cited family stress, and was actually drafting an orderly transition memo for his replacement on instructions from the Secretary of Defense’s office. The famous resignation letter to General Mattis appears to have been delivered by an unnamed third party after Elizondo had already left the building, suggesting a carefully managed departure rather than an impulsive protest. The speaker discusses concerns about Luis Elizondo’s continued involvement with the U.S. Space Force while promoting UFO-related projects through The To the Stars Academy (TTSA). He critiques Pentagon spokesperson Susan Goff’s controversial stance on government disinformation and examines allegations that TTSA misled investors by promising UFO technology development while delivering only entertainment content. The speaker also highlights a pattern of demanding amnesty for military-industrial complex officials and describes what some believe is an orchestrated network of online trolls allegedly used to discredit Elizondo’s critics, characterizing this as part of a broader strategic operation conducted publicly through media and congressional hearings. The speaker describes a documented pattern of coordinated digital harassment targeting researchers who critically question Luis Elizondo’s UFO narrative. This harassment network employs doxing, doxxing, credibility attacks, and threats against independent critics. Notably, former ally Jeremy McGowan was targeted after distancing himself, with his children’s photos weaponized against him. Pseudonymous researchers like Red Panda Koala and Tupacabra were systematically doxed by accounts connected to Elizondo’s circle. The speaker highlights a disturbing tactic where doxing information was deliberately provided to an individual experiencing mental health crisis, effectively weaponizing a vulnerable person to attack critics while insulating the handlers from direct accountability—a mechanism the speaker compares to stochastic terrorism. The speaker discusses how bot farms and troll farms target critical reporting sites like the Sentinel Network, particularly those questioning figures like Lou Elizondo. They reference recent articles about Elizondo, including his bike crash recovery video posted April 4th, which shows significant injuries but also mentions unusual visual experiences. The speaker balances critical skepticism about Elizondo’s role in the disclosure movement with sympathy for his apparent recovery. They also recommend Micah Hanks’ reporting on Ohio’s Serpent Mound and the Adena culture, and mention upcoming presentations at Contact in the Desert featuring Greg Bishop and others discussing UAP research and databases. The speakers reviewed several paranormal and parapsychological news stories, including investigations into G. Scott Rogo’s mysterious death, Kate Sherrill’s review of a book about how ghosts empowered American women, and new consciousness studies. They also discussed more sensational claims, such as Matt Gaetz’s account of an alleged alien hybrid breeding program and a FEMA official’s purported teleportation to a Waffle House, expressing skepticism about these extraordinary claims while acknowledging their entertainment value.

 

TRANSCRIPT

Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another edition of Anomaly Now, straight out of Austin, Texas. I am your host, Smiles Lewis. This is the weekly news and media roundup for the 501c3 nonprofit Scientific Anomaly Institute, a .k .a. the Anomaly Archives. Hey, friend, how are you doing over there? Thanks for keeping an eye over my shoulder. All right. You can go to our website, anomalyarchives .org. You

You can go to our Flipboard, flipboard .com slash at Anomaly Archives and click through to get the thousands upon thousands upon thousands of articles that we’ve been archiving, aggregating there at our Flipboard magazine since, oh gosh, 2006 or something. We were founded in 2003. So what does that make us? 23 years old. The Anomaly Archives is based here in Austin, Texas. We are currently looking for a low -cost physical location in which to exist. Please help us find that. If you have any tips, email us at contact at anomalyarchives .org. You can go to that website and find other ways to contact us, including the P .O. Box, which actually is scrolling on the bottom of your screen if you’re watching this on our YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, or wherever else. Archives of this show are mostly on YouTube. But some of those other places keep archives. But the best place to go is, of course, to our website. What a crazy idea. Go to our website. There’s thousands of pages of information about all things anomalous, all the topics that we cover. Over 7 ,000 books that make up the main bulk of our collection cover just everything from ancient civilizations to Zeta Reticuli. And all paranormal points in between, all anomalous topics. Jumping right in. Wait a minute. Add to the stage. Yes, over at the Flipboard are a current crop of amazing articles, many of which we’re not going to get to tonight. You can see links there to Reflections on the Alien Abduction Phenomena, republished over at paranewsblog .blogspot .com. A recent article over at ABC News, Nearly a Century of Wondering. the American UFO saga in reality and in fiction. Also news about a new UFO conference happening for the anniversary, the 60th anniversary of the great Michigan UFO wave that spawned the infamous swamp gas phrase. Yes, indeed, there is now a swamp gas UFO conference starting in 2006 being put on by Michigan MUFON. It says it recurs, but I guess they’ve had one before. News to me. There’s other weird news. Unidentified animal attack leaves McAllister mother fighting for life. Oh my gosh. Father on dialysis, oiding kidney. Holy moly. But yeah, so much stuff to get to. And I’m just going to jump right in. You know, a lot of you probably already know if you’ve been following the anomaly archives and my participation in it for years. then you’re probably already aware that I, back in 2016, so 10 years ago, just over 10 years ago, for about 30 days, I experienced what I’ve called my mystery hum experience. And I gave a lecture to the Anomaly Archives audience about this back in September of 2017, about a year and a half after the experience. I highly recommend you check out that video. I think it’s a very interesting overview of the mystery hum phenomenon. And if you don’t know what I mean by that, you may be more familiar with things like the Taos hum or other mystery hum, mystery sound phenomena that tend to be named when they are experienced by a wide portion of the populace. They tend to be named after the geographic location and thus in Taos, New Mexico. There were a lot of people experiencing the Taos hum. And then there are other places around the world where this kind of thing recurs. And of course, there’s also a separate page over at the anomalyarchives .org website that is specifically about the mystery hum phenomena with links to a number of articles about this phenomenon. And in that lecture, I will say I gave a wide array of speculative ideas about it. Even then, I was tending to lean towards the probability that I was experiencing what I became confident was likely what I would describe as low frequency tinnitus or tinnitus, depending upon your pronunciation. Most people, when they think of tinnitus, tinnitus, they think of a high pitched ringing in the ears. But apparently it is not uncommon for other people to experience a lower frequency sound. I have always experienced high frequency tinnitus since a very young age due to listening to loud music, I assume. At a very young age, some terribly damaging loud rock concerts at a young age.

One at a very big venue that doesn’t exist anymore. Another at a very small venue that doesn’t exist anymore. Both. infamously infamously loud literally recorded on wiki wikipedia page is not that that’s the end all be all of history but anyway yeah so yeah you can go to anomaly archives and you can or our youtube channel and click and watch videos of me describing that experience and my research into the wide variety of those experiences well i There’s been times in my life since then where I’ve thought, am I starting to hear it again? And I’ve been very relieved that that didn’t seem to be the case. And I hesitate to even bring this up. But over the last several days or few days, I’ve started hearing something that is not exactly the same sound. But I would definitely put it back into that same class of likely. internally generated. I mean, there’s not even a really good explanation for tinnitus as far as I understand. There’s some very wild ideas about the nature of tinnitus, but yeah, it’s not pleasant. And I’m sure there’s probably some kind of environmental or biological or something I’m eating or ingesting or I don’t know.

sure there’s probably some kind of environmental or biological or something I’m eating or ingesting or I don’t know. There could be so many different possible factors. But I definitely suspect that it’s somehow internally generated, though. I also wonder if sometimes our body’s biochemistry changes and we start being able to perceive different frequency ranges, whether it be auditory or visual or taste, which actually reminds me of something I might play in a bit. Anyway. Yeah. Wish me luck. I really hope this doesn’t persist or get worse. Last night was pretty bad. Um, and it, it does seem to be certain times of day. And I think it isn’t largely like it’s, it’s the kind of thing that like, I, you can like what tonight is, you can kind of learn to live with it, but you can also learn that like certain other environmental volumes, sounds can drown it out, so to speak. Anyway. So would it surprise you that within a, a day of this developing, I get an email from, I’m subscribed to the blog of Glenn McPherson, who runs the, the, the hum map. If you’re not familiar, um, he has over at the hum dot info, T H E H U M dot I N F O the world hum map and database project. Now, Glenn is. attempting to be very rational and scientific about this. He’s had to deal with all the crazy wacko stuff that comes along dealing with this subject, some of which I covered in my lecture. And I get it. And I think it’s admirable that he’s trying to do what he’s trying to do. And in fact, I did at some point submit my experience. I think it was briefly there. And then for whatever reason, he did a weeding and it got weeded out. And at that point, I just was like, you know what? I’m not going to worry about it. And again, that’s nothing against him. And what I’m about to say is nothing against him. I’m going to have to say that a lot today. So then an email that I got yesterday morning, Tuesday, April 7th. What a fascinating study. in parentheses, that suggests an obvious investigation. This from World Hum Map and Database Project blog. You know, I’m subscribed to his blog, so I get when he posts things. Well, he posted. Oh, sorry. Mute.

He posted a blog post titled What a Fascinating Study that Suggests an Obvious Investigation. And he just briefly said. This invites an obvious speculation and investigation. Some hum hearers report a perceived sound right around 40 hertz. Could the 40 hertz generated by the auditory system have the same effects as reported in the studies quoted in the article? My database is anonymous, but going forward, this is something to pay attention to. Very relevant, interesting. I’m like, great. So I go to the blog. I click the link to go to the blog. And I see the post, but there’s nothing more. There’s no link to an article or paper. So I’m like, well, what are you responding to? And, you know, I see people do this a lot where they, I guess, misunderstand how to post things, even though they’ve posted things before, or they think they’re just commenting. Maybe they think they’re doing something privately. I’m not really sure. Now. And so I posted a comment. I said, Glenn, what are you referencing? Can you please post a link? There’s no link here. And, you know, I and it said, you know, a comment being moderated. Well, OK. And then immediately I’m like, he’s not going to post this. He’s probably going to. Yes, indeed. He deleted his post. Oops. That page can’t be found. Now that says the page where that link was. I mean.

It was there, but now it’s not. And so that post is not there. He’s still got a 2024 post pinned to the top. And then his last recent post was from January of this year. I’m about to appear on William Shatner’s History Channel show, Unexplained. So, yeah, sorry, Glenn. I wasn’t trying to call you out. I’m not trying to call you out now. I can’t wait to see the link to the article that you’re referencing because… I do, like I just described, feel like I’m experiencing a hum -like phenomenon that seems to likely be in my best guess internally generated that I am somehow hearing an internal process or not. Or it’s tinnitus, which again, I don’t know if that’s an explanation. But so there you go, folks.

explaining a mystery with another mystery. No, you know, whatever. Again, I do recommend you go to his website and blog, thehum .info, the World Hum Map and Database Project, and his blog, which is hummap .wordpress .com, World Hum Map and Database Project. And if you are uncertain about that, you can search for him, Glenn McPherson. That’s M -A -C -P -H -E -R -S -O -N, and there’s information about him there over at the website. Go get him, Glenn, and help us know what you’re talking about. Meanwhile, I know I reported a week or two ago about the announcement from Nick Pope that he had terminal cancer, and we were very sad to hear that. feed the other day from the Nick Pope Facebook page, his wife posting, his wife, Elizabeth Weiss saying, my heart is breaking. Nick passed away this afternoon at her home. The last few weeks of his life, even as he suffered, he managed to do a few interviews from home. I was so lucky to have met and to have married Nick. He was a wonderful husband. I loved him dearly. And of course there’ve been a ton of outpourings of, uh, affections for him. Dr. Greg Little, you know, posting, so sorry to see the passing of Nick Pope. Many others, Michael Huntington, Professor Wham, my friend Russell Dowden, Phoenix Lights writer, experiencer, Lynn Katai, and my good old Austin Mufon friend, Ellen Stewart, all, you know, posting their condolences to Elizabeth. And I was pleasantly surprised to see Sasha Christie over in the UK. posting about Nick’s passing. And she said, very sorry to hear the news about Nick Pope. I know a lot of you didn’t like him, but he was the only public figure who stood up for me and against the disgusting misogyny and trolling I was subject to while everyone else turned a blind eye. Thank you, Nick. I appreciated every tweet, every repost of my blog, every suggestion, and the support you gave me both privately and publicly, Sasha. I’m not going to go deeply into this. And I’m not trying to speak ill of the dead. And everything I’ve ever seen and heard, except for one thing, has made me go, yeah, you know, whatever criticisms I might have had about Nick Pope, as far as his, some have criticized him as basically having been a paper pusher for the MOD, Ministry of Defense. who had an interest in UFOs and was good at PR and translated that to a successful retirement career, post -retirement career in the public eye as a UFO expert. And even just today, I think I was hearing Micah Hanks talk about their friendship and how enamored he was with Nick Pope’s ability to remember facts and details well into his… maturity, let’s say, is growing older. And all I’m going to say is this comment by Sasha Christie about him, about Nick Pope standing up for her against the disgusting misogyny and trolling that she was subject to.

And not everybody, I’m not going to go into details, but you can suss out what I’m saying here. I had a friend who’s no longer with us. And so neither of these people can speak up to this. And certainly Nick Pope can’t defend himself now. But, and I, everybody’s human. They make mistakes. Perhaps they get drunk and do things that they wouldn’t normally do. But, you know, I met, I met Nick in person and saw him speak in person once. And that was in 2017. in July of 2017 at the, what is it? I guess the 70th or 75th, I forget, the anniversary of Roswell. First and only time I’ve been to Roswell any length of time. I’d been there briefly in 2003, but was there and had a wonderful time, met so many wonderful people. And I met Nick Pope and got a selfie with him. And I spoke to him in that moment about A mutual friend. And it appears from the communication I had with that mutual friend later that, yeah, something happened that caused me to constantly look at him differently. That’s all I’m going to say. And again, I wish no ill will on him. He seemed like a nice enough fellow. And whether or not those things were true. We all make mistakes and do things that we later regret. And that may or may not have happened between these two people. But safe travels. And yeah, I don’t. I wouldn’t want that to necessarily affect anybody’s positive remembrances of him. I just had to get that out. Also, we’ve had, of course, news of the passing of another. much more problematic in my estimation figure in the UFO field. That is Ed Dames, the remote viewing legend, as identified by our good friend Paul H. Smith over at his website, rviewer .com. rviewer .com is, of course, the home of Paul H. Smith’s RVIS, Remote Viewing Instructional Services. On April 6th, Ed, Paul Smith, excuse me, posted Ed Dames, remote viewing legend, saying, I got the news Wednesday night, April 1st. Despite the date, I knew it was no joke. Ed Dames, media producer manager, Nick Westerlund, called to tell me that Ed had passed away. It had probably happened the previous Friday night, but sadly, he wasn’t found until Sunday. The news of Ed’s passing has not yet been made public. Had not yet been made public, Nick said. Ed had suffered a stroke about six months prior, and from all appearances, another one had done him in. Ed is a legendary, I would say, and I think Paul Smith would agree, infamous character in the long controversial saga of the military intelligence community’s remote viewing program. But this is a very nice, long remembrance of Ed over at Paul’s website. And I’d encourage you to go check that out, especially if you aren’t familiar with Ed Dames or the field of psychic remote viewing. Also, of course, there’s tons of other tributes to him. And again, there’s tons of tributes to Nick Pope are out there as well. But there’s this one over at coasttocoastam .com, remembering Major Ed Dames. Of course, he appeared many, many times on Coast to Coast. You know, he was kind of infamously linked, if I’m remembering correctly, to debacles like the Heaven’s Gate via the speculations about a companion object following the Hale -Bopp comet. Comet.

Meanwhile, in other UFO -related news, sentinel -news .org has this article. Well, it’s really not an article. It’s a rebuttal letter. I was unaware of this feud. Very interesting. I know feuds are often a matter of like I was kind of doing just moments ago. He said, she said. This is titled Dr. Jacques Vallée, quote, open letter to Jean -Jacques Velasco. The following is an authorized reproduction and translation of Jacques Vallée’s letter to the author of Roswell.

My French is terrible. So apparently Jean -Jacques Velasco has published a book about Roswell in which he takes a lot of what seemed like pot shots at Jacques Vallée. Of course Jacques, as I’ve reported, has taken a lot of criticism over his work on His work and reporting on the Trinity UFO case that was really, I guess, mainly investigated and popularized by Paolo Harris, without going into great detail, just suffice to say, the Trinity case purports to be a crash retrieval case with child witnesses and other alleged witnesses dating back to 1945, I believe two years before. the Roswell incident, and apparently Jean -Jacques Velasco takes Vallée to task in a number of ways, and Vallée in this letter is trying to counter that. Again, not being really sure, having not read this new book, I don’t even know if there’s an English translation of it available, but Vallée does get very upset about this, not least of which… So first he starts by just criticizing Jean -Jacques Velasco’s, I’m not getting his name right. I’m sorry. Jean -Jacques Velasco, JJV’s technical comments about these UFO cases. But then what he really, perhaps the most inflammatory thing here is the lady gets to this other part where he says, I could forget all of this, but there are much more serious matters. You directly accuse me. with your publisher’s full awareness, who should nevertheless have reviewed your manuscript with his editorial advisors, to be an American spy in France. Obviously, it is like asking someone if they have stopped beating their wife. We could never refute such an accusation, and the doubt is permanently set. But here you accuse me of knowingly betraying my native country. Even if it is impossible to prove one is not a spy, you know there were people within our circle who were in the position to verify and whom you could have easily consulted in your quality of ex -employee of a quote -unquote sensitive government institution. Some of the individuals in question are among those named here among the officials I’ve copied in this letter. You know them as I do. Yet, you have not made this obvious inquiry. I am obliged to take into account this serious accusation, now widely disseminated in France and internationally by your publisher and the media, which was brought to my attention by your own readers. With the suspicion and… It goes on from there. Yeah, wow. I know of others. much younger than Jean -Jacques Velasco, who have really been criticizing Valet because of his admitted interactions with Peter Thiel years ago. And I get that. I get all of this. But I also, I hate to see people fighting. I am not into that sort of thing. But I was completely unaware of this apparent feud or these accusations, but so I guess I’m glad I’ve been made aware of that for whatever it’s worth. Now, speaking of accusations, you know, a few days ago, two days ago, this article was released by the sentinel .network. This is the website that put out, I think it was called the long count. uh, article that I commented about.

Some are suggesting was written by AI at the website is written by AI, or at least is utilizing a lot of AI in its article writing. But yeah, man, I would encourage you to go read this. I think it’s, it’s one of the most comprehensive things I’ve seen dealing with Lou Elizondo and the Strange aspects of his career, his appearance on the UFO scene. This article over at the sentinel .network is called titled The Operator, a counterintelligence officer built the UFO disclosure movement. He never left the payroll. The architecture of managed disclosure mapped from Wright Patterson to your social media feed. not this it’s too long to go into um but let me see if i can bring that back up here there is a lot to to digest here and i as far as i know this is all stuff i i was more or less aware of um but it it contradicts it shows the contradiction the apparent.

Yeah, the contradictions between what we can verify of his story of how he left the Pentagon UFO program compared to what people like John Greenwald at the Black Fault have been able to come out with. You know, just recently Greenwald reported on how he had been trying to get the archived emails from Lou Elizondo’s work at the Pentagon. through FOIA, and they’d said, oh, they all were mysteriously accidentally deleted. So he reapplied, and he recently was able to get, by targeting other people, other people’s emails, some of those emails from Elizondo or with Elizondo. So yeah, of course, because when you send an email, it’s not just in your sent box and or inbox. It’s in other people’s inboxes. 

So, yeah, you know, the basic story, as Elizondo relates, is he sent his letter of resignation out of frustration to General Mattis saying, you know, they’re not taking this UAP threat seriously. But as this article and the work of John Grunewald showed, quote, the internal record tells a different story. FOIA documents obtained by the Black Vault reveal what actually happened. On October 3rd, Elizondo informed his direct supervisor he was leaving for a, quote, fleeting job opportunity that required his immediate availability, unquote. On October 4th, the famous Mattis letter appeared, but Elizondo did not hand it in personally. It was delivered to the USDI chief of staff’s office by an unnamed third party of, quote, unquote, uncertain provenance after Elizondo had already cleared out of the building. October 6, Elizondo told a superior by phone that he resigned because the job was, quote, too stressful on his family, unquote. Three different reasons in three days. The letter that launched a thousand headlines was a planted document delivered by a ghost after the author had already left. But there is a fourth document that reframes the entire sequence. On April 2, 2026, John Greenwald of the Black Vault published recovered emails between Elizondo and Brendan McKiernan, former director of the UAP task force, obtained through lateral FOIA. requests on recipients’ mailboxes after the DOD claimed Elizondo’s own emails had been destroyed. Among the 26 pages of correspondence, on September 25, 2017, nine days after… Nine days… Oh, excuse me. On September 25, 2017, nine days before the resignation, an email the Navy deemed responsive to this Elizondo -scoped FOIA request was sent to Neil Tipton, a senior executive service official at OUSD Intelligence and Security, with… a draft memo titled ATIP -DDI -TCSP.

Excuse me. The email reads, per SecDef’s front office guidance to you and me, I took the liberty of drafting a memo at the unclassified level that helps you better assume the new responsibilities for ATIP. Unquote. On October 3rd, the day before the resignation, Tipton replied that he was reviewing the memo. Elizondo responded, perfecto, quote unquote. He was not storming out in protest. He was drafting an orderly transition document for his replacement on instructions from the secretary of defense’s front office and finalizing the handoff the morning before he walked out the door. 

Now, again, this whole article, it does reek of like being written to give you everything about this site from the style, the dark background on a white with white text, these computer. These obviously computer generated, designed to look like computer display graphics, you know, it all just has this quality to it. And the writing style has this quality to it to make you really feel like this is some kind of actual Intel report. And, you know, maybe the writers behind it actually have some sort of background in that. We don’t know because we don’t know who they are. And that’s good and bad. And that’s kind of become part of the story later on. So, yeah, this article then goes on to the section titles include things like the whistleblower on the payroll, which basically seems to indicate that what I’d also been hearing elsewhere, that Elizondo was employed by the United States Space Force. Pentagon spokesperson Susan Zengoff officially confirmed the arrangement, stating that Elizondo, quote, provides technical advice on a variety of classified topics, unquote. No termination of this arrangement has been publicly reported. Now, of course, Sue Goff, Susan Goff, has her own checkered past in terms of having written papers where she says it’s perfectly fine for the government and the military and the intelligence services to disinform the American public as part of operations. That’s just how things go. That’s just the world we live in. I would strongly disagree with that, even though I know, obviously, psyops are… A long running part of all government military intelligence practices. And there’s sometimes very good reasons for that, but they often lead to the worst abuses of power. Now, yeah, let’s see some of the money machine. This is where they criticize the TTSA for basically, you know, kind of being a bait and switch. making its investors think that they’re going to be investing in the reverse engineering of UFO technology and helping bring some of these UFO technologies to market. But in fact, basically accusing the TTSA of advertising that that’s what it was going to do, but then only ending up putting out entertainment product. And this really reminded me of what I’ve reported on before in one of Jacques Vallée’s forbidden science journals, where he criticized previous efforts, previous to 2017, like 10 years previous, maybe efforts that I believe he identified as having been connected to Leslie Kane and Christopher Mellon as being just, you know, some people trying to do entertainment, UFO entertainment and make some money. I’ve read the quotes. I wanted to dig them up for this, but I did not. Sorry. But maybe I’ll put this somewhere on the website if I haven’t already. But yeah, it just goes into the whole scam that some people have accused it of being this. What happened with the TTSA, you know, SEC kind of process. I’m not really I’m not accusing anybody, but you can look at it and decide for yourself. And then they also comment on something that we’ve also reported that others have noticed that this drumbeat of amnesty, amnesty, amnesty, amnesty for the military industrial complex participants in this supposed legacy program. And this is something that, yeah, when we played, we played all these clips where Joe Rogan goes over and over. He keeps saying like, why, why, what’s up with this amnesty? And that again, this goes back to the. emails that came out in WikiLeaks between Podesta and DeLong and alluded to Neil McCasland and all these other military intelligence insiders who DeLong was trying to convince that his project was going to rehabilitate the tarnished image of the military industrial complex and these legacy programs to help the youth of today have a better image of these and to give amnesty to these past power abusers for the things that they did to protect our national security.

Now, there’s also whole sections on this alleged troll network that some believe is orchestrated by Elizondo himself, that it’s just his… obvious expertise as a counterintelligence officer and that there’s these gang stalkers, these internet troll groups that have been set upon different people who had the audacity to question Elizondo. There is a very telling part in here that I had never heard the details of, but that gets to the heart of some of my worst imaginative speculations about the ideas of pushing mentally unstable people in the direction of and giving them the idea to perform horrific, violent criminal acts against one’s enemies.

Let’s see. So end of the section called The Handler’s Toolkit. They start with what we have described so far, the staged resignation, the ongoing government contract, the financial vehicles, the amnesty play is the strategic architecture. It operates in daylight on television and congressional hearing rooms. Now we go underground. The tactical architecture is uglier, is built on harassment, doxing, and the systematic exploitation of psychologically vulnerable people. Multiple independent researchers who have publicly questioned the Elizondo narrative have been subjected to coordinated digital harassment campaigns. These are not random trolls. The harassment follows a consistent operational pattern. A researcher publishes critical content and within hours, a network of aggressive accounts descends to attack their credibility, expose their personal information, and in documented cases, threaten physical harm. Two accounts in particular have been extensively documented. Let’s see. When… skipping some of the parts that have expletives in it. Former Elizondo ally Jeremy McGowan reported that the network used photographs of his children during targeted attacks after he distanced himself from the group. McGowan had posted a UFO sighting on Reddit that led to him appearing on Elizondo’s History Channel show Unidentified. When he witnessed red flags and stepped back, the network turned on him. That detail matters. This is not a machine that only targets outsiders. It eats its own. And some of these people have their own problems. And I, you know, I don’t necessarily like their reporting or reporting style or vitriolic approach. And I sometimes get the names confused, so I’m not accusing any of these people here. But there’s several people who talk about being targeted and how they were targeted. They mentioned here a Washington Spectator article that documented the cyberstalking in detail. McGowan filed complaints with the Las Vegas Police Department and told Spectator he was exploring a formal complaint with the FBI’s Internet Crime Complaint Center. Researchers operating under the pseudonyms Red Panda Koala and Tupacabra, both prominent critics of the Elizondo narrative, have been targeted by doxing campaigns connected to the same network. Where is the one I’m… Let’s see.

In a public statement on X, Red Panda Koala identified the individual who compiled and distributed doxing dossiers. on him and Tupacabra, an account operating as at Mike Disclosure, described by RPK as a personal friend of Elizondo. The dossiers were not casual internet research. Now, they say that what they saw is professional -grade intelligence for product. I don’t know. What they describe here to me just seems like the kind of thing you can get through Spokio or White Pages or these various other internet -enabled background. search engines. Maybe I’m wrong. Mike Disclosure sent these dossiers to John Simas, J -O -N -S -I -M -A -S. According to RPK’s public account, corroborated by Simas himself in a recorded X -Spaces conversation, Simas was experiencing a mental health crisis at the time and had been involuntarily committed less than a week prior. Mike Disclosure was aware of this. He sent the dossiers anyway. He then suggested Sinus use the information to make RPK and Tupacabra, quote, face consequences in real life, IRL, unquote. Sinus did not ask for this information. It was pushed to him, unsolicited by someone who knew he was in crisis. That is the mechanism. You do not tell the asset to attack. You hand a loaded weapon to someone you know is unstable and you suggest the target deserves consequences. The handler’s hands stay clean. The mentally unwell person takes the fall. That’s what I was getting at. There’s more about that. Again, I don’t I don’t know the details of all this, but this that very basic idea, I think, could be behind how some very small percentage of some mass shooting events could be done and could be instigated and directed against individuals or certain populations. Oh, what’s it called? Epistemic terrorism or stochastic terrorism, stochastic terrorism, which some people think is completely bogus.

But anyway, there’s a lot more here, obviously. And then there’s a whole section on bots and the suppression of of this kind of information and how bot farms and troll farms and astroturfing are utilized to target. sites like this, the Sentinel .network and others reporting on anything critical of an alleged operation, like they’re accusing Lou Elizondo of being part of. Anyway, this gets back to the McCaslin stuff, which, yeah, there’s a lot more. Oh, you know, I didn’t finish reading. I never did finish reading this article. Anyway, so, you know, interestingly, this came out on the 6th. April 6th, just two days ago. Well, on April 4th, this came out. And actually, you know what? Let me, I’m going to have to, I want to make sure this plays.

And so that you can hear the audio. And this is also a weird callback to something I said earlier, but let’s see if I can get this to play.

This is Lou Elizondo on his Lou Elizondo YouTube page posted April 4th, his Lou Elizondo YouTube page posted April 4th. And it’s titled Lou Elizondo Bike Crash Recovery Diary 1. And he’s been doing, I think, one of these a day. I haven’t seen all of them, but this is the first one I saw. And yes, he looks pretty bad.

It’s about five minutes I probably won’t play the whole thing with.

So, yeah, that last bit was, again, as much as I know how people love the sense of the wind in their hair, as little as some of us have, just that the lack of a helmet is obviously a thrill, a wonderful sense of freedom. But I definitely agree with him, especially if this is all legit, which certainly seems legit. And I feel sorry for him for having to go through that.

Yeah. Just that last little bit though, about his, this vision changing and the, you’ve seen colors that he’d never seen before. That’s, that’s pretty interesting. Um, that’s what I was thinking of earlier when I was talking about the mystery home phenomenon for some reason, but wow. Yeah. This whole, like had a 50, 50 chance survival from that allegedly. Wow. Um, certainly glad he is okay, but I just offer that as balance to the, previously offered a critical skeptical article about, uh, Mr. Elizondo and his creation of the disclosure movement post 2017. So I’m just going to quickly round up tonight’s today’s episode. Micah Hanks has done some great reporting and podcasting over at the debrief .org and his Micah Hanks .com.

Yeah. Over at, The debrief is this article, Ohio’s Serpent Mound still fuels debate as haunting questions remain about America’s most mysterious earthwork. I am fascinated, as so many are, about the Native American mound culture that so dramatically dots the landscape of North America. Though I’ve never had the chance to visit these, let alone this particular one, the famous Serpent Mound, it’s just fascinating to learn more about this. And this article and this podcast by Micah Hanks go into great detail about the history of investigations of that, as well as the probable culture that created it, the Adena culture. There in the Ohio Valley. Yeah, highly recommend, as always, the work of Micah Hank, especially as it relates to, in this case, archaeological investigation. So, well, that is going to be it. There is, of course, a ton more news over at the website. I hadn’t intended to get into these other articles, but there are some great other links, including our good friend. Greg Bishop is going to be presenting at Contact in the Desert, a presentation titled Visual Information, Witness Reactions and Art, Developing a New UAP Database. Also, I believe Mark Rodiger is going to be presenting and Josh Kutchen is going to be presenting. I believe they recently. Yeah, yeah, that’s what it is. There’s links there to. Oh, yeah, that’s, yes. Well, let me. I’ll just go ahead and open these real quick. Yeah. Come on. I have still never made it to Contact in the Desert. Too expensive, too far away. And I just can’t. But who knows? Maybe one day. But yeah, I didn’t realize this. There is a Beyond Contact podcast and episode 95 features Mark Rodiger talking UFOs in Project Blue Book. Meanwhile. Episode 94 features Joshua Kutchin talking about UFOs in the afterlife. Also, things that we didn’t get to under the paranormal parapsychological news headlines, Life and Mysterious Death of G. Scott Rogo. That’s something I’m looking forward to looking into. Also, When We Spoke to the Dead, How Ghosts Gave American Women Their Voice. That’s a review by… Kate Sherrill over at the SPR’s website. That’s the Society for Psychical Research in UK. And this other article over at the deeproof .org. New studies suggest consciousness is shaped by the body’s signals and how we experience time. So check that out. Some of the crazier stuff that we didn’t get to, but yeah. Yeah, Matt Gates has been interviewed and claims that a soldier… spoke to him about a U .S. alien hybrid breeding program. Yeah, you don’t get much wackier than that. I’m not saying it couldn’t be true, but just with it being Matt Gaetz being the one bringing it to the fore, that’s just too much, folks. And then this other headline that’s been making rounds, this one is over at theguardian .com. Top U .S. FEMA official claims to have teleported to… A Waffle House. Yep. The most paranormal, weird restaurant of its kind. The Waffle House. Okay. That’s going to be it. Thank you so much for joining us. I hope you have a wonderful day, a wonderful week, wonderful rest of your week, or a wonderful weekend. And we should be back next week. We’ll see. You never know. Ta -ta.